Well, both Vue and Bryce have a definite "style" to their renders. I find Vue has a nice "painterly" look that is hard to achieve in Bryce, and which I find fits well certain projects - but not all. I like the Vue vegetation a lot too. Which is why I'm the happy user of both products. Rochr, guys. I would never summarize my work to the tool I use. I try and get the tool that works best for a given job. I never really noticed those comments about how much Bryce "sucks", though I did spot the Millimeter magazine quote. Should you flame e-on for quoting Millimeter mag? Anyway, everybody does that, and I wouldn't disregard a product because of something like that. BTW, I'm not saying any of you must get Vue. If you're so completely showered by Bryce that you never want to look at anything else, please ignore my post. I'm just saying it's a nice opportunity for those like me who are always happy to add a new paintbrush to their toolkit. And let's face it, Vue is really a very cool proggie.