ockham, I'm not very facile with parenting props and all the rules which go along with doing it, but I wonder if there isn't some way to use a phantom prop parented to the shin or foot (and the toes parented to the prop with a subroutine to see if they need to bend to some degree?), combined with "drop to floor" and/or the collision detection routine you did awhile back. I haven't thought this through carefully, but I wonder if it wouldn't be easier to have the script detect the position of a (parenting and/or parented) prop rather than examine vertices. But I'm probably just displaying the extent of my ignorance here...

Message edited on: 11/11/2004 19:25