Questor, I admit that most of the Poser work is on the edge of pornography, but I have some thoughts on it. Consider what a Max, Maya, or Lightwave user could do if he/she can quickly build a realistic mesh (and I mean "realistic", not some pipes held together with a faulty bone mesh)... Do you remember Stahlberg's images? I think they were the sexiest images I've ever seen...and he didn't used Poser for sure!!! So, given the difficulties to build a realistic human mesh in a 3D modeller, it's normal to see Poser as a "porn toy", and we know well, sex sells. I don't think then that all the "porn gadget" received by 3DMags were built directly in Poser, too :-D That said, just watch at the main subject of past artists: it was the human body. Goya's paintings, with their overweighted models, are on the same level as Picasso's ones; Michelangelo could be called a pornographer with today's standards; in the Systin Chapel are painted children too. The Reinassance palaces are filled with nude figures, and the Greek main decoration is the female body. I know, there's almost nothing that can made these images and statues a real "sexy image", not with actual standards, but I read many pamphlets about how sexy these images could have been to the viewers of the time. So, you can have a realistic human figure, you have a standard about sex and its appearances, and you are very likely to see a "sexy" image done with Poser. But as I said, just imagine what a Maya user could do if he can build a human mesh quickly... I want respect for what I do, not for what others do with the same program I'm using; or I can smack down a Lightwave user for what Stahlberg had done with it...