What if Rendo made it so when you uploaded an image, YOU (the artist) had a choice (like with ratings and comments) to enable or disable the VOTE button? Since it is generally the same people in most of the various H20's already, many could choose NOT to participate in this mess. I have long since stopped allowing ratings to my images, since it is very rare anything is ranked lower than the top "excellent". As far as I am concerned, let those that want to keep playing this game have it. And for those of us that dont want to, give them the right with a radio button when uploading to disable the Vote button. Maybe then R admins/mods would see after a while just how many are tired of this. Since thread after thread on this issue seems to be ignored for the most part. Just another idea to toss in the mix of possible fixes. -B