Wow sailor, I'm impressed to see I'm not the only one with looong renders. I thought everyone else had their pictures rendered much faster....!! But I mean, even if poser renders have muuuch less quality, they usually take no longer than 10 minutes! I know that certain features that don't show up much in a better render take a long time to be calculated, but... i don't know.. I'm not using too high quality settings... just soft shadows in the only 2 spot lights... However, i'll have to check if its a memory swapping problem... can I change the HD from where CS takes the virtual memory?..I've got two HDs... will that help? Thx! BTW what do you think of the render??