Yeah I too would LOVE to know the specifics behind that water. I've not been able to get anything close to that, although I DID learn quite a bit about the functions-- I think-- I at least learned more about the power they have. Whether I was barking up the wrong tree or not I don't know, but it was worth it if for nothing other than that. Cheers, Mike PS No problem Varian! I have a busy day today, but tonight I think I'm gonna come up with a better format for the page for those pics...possibly a multi-row-column frame thingie setup, and smaller pictures.