heyas; but.... i like the ram horns... :/ anyway, byrdie, you get the guy to go in the suit the same place you get the suit. click the link there and find the GOODIES link. hint: if the poser goodie page is too huge, try the text only version (read the top text). the guy and his suit will be on the same line ;) no, i'm not back.... but it's nice to know you care. i did just finish a 700 hour render, but i dont know if i'll finish the postwork on it.