The "connection between pornographic sex and violence" I invoked had nothing to do with Nixon's round in the censorship game. In the first place, "pornographic" was meant to modify both "sex" and "violence," neither of which is inherently wrong. Secondly, the point I was making was that pornographic sex and pornographic violence are both about power, used in a degrading way. Watching a woman fellate a Doberman is not likely to increase our respect for her. I didn't say anything to suggest that "porn causes sex crime" or "porn causes violence," but since those are easy views to attack, I can see why you would choose to put them in my mouth. Much easier than actually responding to what I said. Finally, if you have a wander through the "adult" section of your local newstand, much less the adult bookstores, you will find the same thing I find in the subject lines of unsolicited porn spam I get on a regular basis--an emphasis on force, pain, objectification, and degradation. Silly me, after forty years of a very diversified and mutually enjoyable sex life, I still don't believe that "Real women want it to hurt!!!" What I must have missed! You are welcome to ignore what you please in order to keep your own prejudices intact. M