few options ? as I said - there are millions of real (!) porn sites on the web this very moment and please find me a single one which doesn't accepts Visa. second, you said : This is an international community. Without PayPal, Renderosity loses their ability to cater to the bulk of international customers. I say : pay pal is far far, very far from being international. it covers just a few countries. it even doesn't covers all europe community coutries. I'm from one of eu countries but I cannot get pay pal's accunt because they don't cover my country. but I do have visa. by my opinion, being a seller and sell only by paypal is a suicide. I could't buy in phil'c-s store for years - as long as he offered only pay pal payments. as I said - tried to get a pay pall account but it looks like for pay pal owners 3/4 -ths of the world doesn't exist. in my country even people without a job may get a special kind of visa card - visa electon - especially for payments over the web - it's not a credit card but they may spent as much as they put on their bank accout. again - I don't believe in stories about merchant account problems. if people who run Renderotica may charge cards for selling this stuff I don't see any reason (or excuses) why people who run Renderosity can't. I see only two answers : a.) people who run this site is incompetent. b.) people who run this site lies - they invented this whole story arround merchant account problems just to carry out their sick restrictions.