That's good, and you will get mine for TSCM (er in layman's terms technical surveilence countermeasures, ie. debugging what bugs yah) :O) Strangely enough they should cancel each other out - what is commonly known in the TSCM field as nullification. I'd tell yah more but then...well you know the rest. ;O) On a more serious note, looking forward to seeing what else you can come up with on DOF. So far I am spinning my wheels and not making much headway on my tests. But that's why I am only Eeegor and you are the Doc.