I kept hearing about how long Poser 5 takes to render, and really thought it was time to get a clearer picture of exactly what was involved. I hate Poser 5 getting a bad reputation, needlessly. Graphics applications are very complex software, and every one of the items I mentioned has an immense bearing on our software's performance. If you're short on memory and hard drive space, you'll be lucky to render any image at all. The more complex your ambitions are, the more power you need. Then there seem to be some issues concerning stuff that works ok in Poser 4, but does not work well in Poser 5. Perhaps it has something to do with how some things are put together, or whether or not the artist "cheated" by taking advantage of some known or unknown bugs in Poser 4? Ok, I've rambled enough. I just won't accept any blanket statements like "Poser 5 takes forever to render," without hearing more details.