Hmm... foleypro - not sure if I really want 2 objects instead of 1 (if I am understanding you correctly). Since I'm texturing in Bryce, I would think that trying to texture 2 objects and align the textures would be difficult. wildman - smoothing did not help the situation any, unfortunately (but thanks for the advice). I seem to recall reading something somewhere about normals, whether it was that Bryce got screwed up if another program had precalculated them and they were included in a file(?) I dunno - something like that about perhaps being able to delete them from a file and letting Bryce calculate its own?