Good Grief! And I thought I knew (most of) Poser. But I'd never quite understood that "hip-shoulder" relationship guide before. VERY useful. Thx Doc! Btw - How come Posative Lee's Birthday suit shows LESS of her than the shots in the bikini???? (Diolma tries to negotiate with NSG to smuggle a secret Cam into PL's dressing room to caputure shots of her in her birthday suit, but is running into problems; NSG is demanding "I wannna get sum a da I sing from da cake"; I don't have the heart to explain..) :-)) Cheers, Diolma (l-o-o-o-n-g bookmark..)