dorkati, thanks for responding. Yes, I want some good looking hair made like that, which is why I am not wanting to try to model and texture it myself. Modeling and texturing are my weak areas. I can do them, but not as well. Converting stuff to work in Poser and making morphs is my little nitch. If you have the modeling skills (and hopefull texturing skills) necessary, we may be able to pull this off between us. Drop me an email at shadownet@edgeofnever.net and we can talk further as to maybe a co-production. In the meantime, I will hunt around and see if I can find some better pictures of that hair style. :O)