Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL


Subject: Where is the line drawn?

littlefox opened this issue on Nov 27, 2004 ยท 129 posts


ynsaen posted Sun, 28 November 2004 at 4:46 PM

Grace, she's upset about a concept, not an item. She's mad about the way that many people in the poser community are being acting when it comes to the creative efforts of others. This particular item set her off because it touches close to home for her. She made all of that quite clear in the first post. The issue that has her upset is simple; nothing fancy, nothing evil, nothing petty. Rather than work to create an original concept, or to present what are otherwise nice clothes and such, the creator has taken extra pains to ensure that the item would sell because of it's strong similarities to a commercial character. It was done with intent, it is done for profit, and it may indeed violate trademark and copyright as it is presented. Doing so means that it specifically is considered wrong -- if it wasn't, it wouldn't be against the law. However, knowledge of these greater issues -- the ethics and legality that surround the effort and challenge of being an artist, in the truest sense of the word -- is incredibly rare among those in the poser community. I won't go into why that is, myself. But what she's speaking of is that higher idea, that somewhat nobler concept. It is the post of many others that debased her original statement, turning it into a debate on the merits of a particular product. Interestingly enough, there was an earlier comment that implied that an independent broker was copying the Bratz dolls. It could also have been said that the independent broker was copying the lilz line of images. Or, perhaps, that the lilz line was copying the bratz. Or perhaps all of them are based in a particular style of drawing and imagery that's been used since the mid 70's, adapting it into their own expressive formats. I happen to like the outfit in question. I can, um, recall some clothing similar to it, hee hee, simply by going to my storage shed and digging in a few boxes I keep well hidden and mislabeled. However, I could not use said outfit in any of my commercial work as it is supplied as the apparent risk to me, personally, is too great. Especially if I change the hair a little and fix up the textures on that sword. I do that, I'm either gonna have to post it as fan art or keep it for myself. And if it's going there, I'm not going to pay for it. But there's a large difference between someone who uses all this stuff to earn a buck like me, and someone who finds it wonderfully fun to play with just for their own pure, rather innocent enjoyment. That difference is going to determine the value of it to you, personally, depending on where you fall in those generalizations. but these are the words of a crazy woman, who spends a sizeable chunk of her day filling out forms so that people who steal the pictures made by other people will find themselves learning the hard way about those higher ideas and concepts. The rest of the time, though, I get to play with poser :D

thou and I, my friend, can, in the most flunkey world, make, each of us, one non-flunkey, one hero, if we like: that will be two heroes to begin with. (Carlyle)