Right Cyn...but who knows...we have for student in CH some special prices... but with or without book- never seen in French part of Europe...Adobe in such a low cost. Eldorado is elsewhere.:-)) X'mas is not yet here...ouf... nice day sis...:L and P I see you upgrade to 8.1 and CS...I dont...I'm not interested in CS I dont use anymore Illustrator...and have Golive 5 whom is enought for what I do. Is there a major upgrade in PSP 8.1 ?