[Quote from JHoagland] If you get pemission from him to make models out of his stuff, make sure you get a notarized copy from his attorneys. That way, you'll have sufficient proof that the legal copyright-holder has given you a license and that they will not come after Renderosity for linking to the model on your site. You will probably also need to extend your "license" to anyone who makes images with your model in case gallery images start to removed due to "copyright violations". --John [END quote] Yeah...and in the meantime, 'rosity will pull all of your stuff! and then after showing them the proof, they'll pull it again, anyway. Yo, John...no emails to me yet about the raider...I should pull it myself. The spineless don't deserve any support, imo. Well, I'm all for decentralizing a lot of this site's content among the Fan Community. Maybe Just a central LINK site to Poser sites of (insert genre here) interest that offer free downloads. Basically, breaking it up a good bit, into smaller chunks. All these suits ever seem to worry about is a CONCENTRATION of things. They never see the small stuff coming. (no imagination.) -karl