Other than those two, that's it. Prior to the release of Poser 5, CL made it clear they were not going to be developing in house plugin to port the platform to other programs. One could infer that this was done, at the time, due to the financial situation there, but has remained such because of the new viability of the Shade-Poser-Vue circuit. that said, there is someone developing an absolutely awesome looking program to port to Cinema4D that whomps butt over anything I've seen, but, um, I can't for the life of me remember which "kuro" it is . and now that that is out of the way, um, can I ask why Poser 5 isn't being considered all by it's lonesome? It can do the scene as described itself.

thou and I, my friend, can, in the most flunkey world, make, each of us, one non-flunkey, one hero, if we like: that will be two heroes to begin with. (Carlyle)