I am in the 4th year of a continuous migraine (1 more year and I'll be a statistic), so I understand about posting when tired or cranky. If we were limited to only chatting when we were in perfect health and happiness, few would be in here typing because we'd all be out in the daylight having fun. If I was doing nude males, I'd probably be using a prop as well, just so that a man on his side wouldn't be sticking straight out but hanging naturally. I have to confess that the first thing I did when getting Poser was to load the nude male. Found the dial and rotated the penis on the x-axis. Yup, that worked. Rotated the body 90 degrees. Nope. No gravity. He looked pretty funny laying there with the penis straight out like a coat rack... so that was my very first render. Those stage magicians in Vegas are missing a bet. Instead of the too-typical floating ladies with the tuxedoed magician passing rings around their bodies, the blonde magician could have a Chippendale's sort of man laying there with maybe a tassel and a smile and let ladies from the audience play ring toss. :) (Note: rubber rings aren't nearly as deadly as those daggers the men throw at women turning on the wheel, and it seems fair to have an attraction for the ladies.) It's been 30 years since I read Milton. The composition of his works must have been onerous... to hold the whole story in his mind but only phrase it as fast as his daughter could write it down, and not be able to go back and make changes. Sheesh... I'm always editing! However, if I was to hold a dinner party, Shakespeare would be the preferred guest. He knew more stories and his POV was so very human. One never knows when the perfect quote will come to mind, but I should have remembered it a bit more exactly. Shakespeare is easier to remember, too. ;) Illustrating a sequential story can be a lot of fun. You get to add personality to your characters that develops with time and experiences. BTW, Daio did a witch character with black cat (I got it over at PoserPros), and the cat is done with her drow technique. Perhaps in your story you'll have room for some animals and rabbits, ferrets, snakes all burrow underground. Carolly