igohigh, your answers are ONLY going to be found by educating yourself on the laws that apply. You are seeking a definition point that can't be explained adequately unless you also explain the nature of copyright and trademark. And the only way you'll get that is to go and look it up and think about it. I'm trying to help. If you want a good, happy guideline, well, here ya go: Don't post anything using a recognizable symbol that someone else made. It's not accurate, it's not correct; but you know what, for folks who "don't have the time or patience" to learn about something that is critical to them, it will suffice. If you recognize it, odds are someone else will, too. How's that? Will that work? you know, I'm really trying to help here. This isn't something that you can just apply common sense to willy nilly and think you are right. These are things that deal in details brought together as sums of parts. Like recipies. Everybody has a great apple pie recipie, and they are all different, even if they are made up of the same things. nah, forget it.

thou and I, my friend, can, in the most flunkey world, make, each of us, one non-flunkey, one hero, if we like: that will be two heroes to begin with. (Carlyle)