Well i think the whole voting/Ranking system is a sham anyway.I am by no means a master artist of Bryce or anyother CGI program buti make pictures that are pleasing to MY eye!i did nto see in the rules anywhere where it said i had to make my pictures to please the BIGHEAD attitude of others.I post WIP in the fourm and i try to improve my pix and usually they come out good and i still hardley get no rankings or barley evening viewings..but i still post them just the same when their done i like them and that is all that counts. Yeah the fractal thing in the hot 20 blows my mind too i seen it when it was in the gallery and shook my head but the way it works around here is who you know and not what you do that counts. What really ticked me off about this whole thing is this..I am a supervisior at my company and the first rule taught to me was never repremand an employee in the pressence of others,and the harsh comments made here regarding an indviduals work was totally out of place and uncalled for no matter what the work looked like.When after i looked at a few "choice" gallerys and was not impressed at all not even remotley..one guy had 2 of the same images in his gallery only diffrence was was the lighting in the picture(or the hue/Sat button photoshop). SO i geuss i got my rant in there take for what you will just my observation.... Xx__WARBLADE__xX