I hoped this thread would be dead by this morning, but nope, it's chundering away :^( In the real world I'm an artist (a sculptor) and take years to make each work. I don't make money, I have to beg borrow and steal materials, drive an 18-year-old car, and will never make a decent living from it. Other people make work that takes a couple of days, and charge thousands, or hundreds of thousands. They do their thing, I do mine. Putting a lot of work into something, or spending a long time working on it, is no guarantee that other people are going to respond to it. Art is subjective. Just because other artists are more successful than I am, I don't consider that I have the right to criticise and insult their work. That's their means of expression. They don't work the same way that I do. That doesn't mean that I'm right, and they're wrong. I happen to enjoy the process of making, so I take a long time over it. For others 'the idea' might be the important thing, they have heads bursting with ideas that they want to make quickly. Everyone works in different ways, and you can't force everyone tolike the same things that you do. Sometimes it seems like the thought police have taken over this place. ROTFL @ Sackrat - great quote!