justinwilliams - believe me, the so-called Hot 20 has been discussed all over the place jsut in the amount of time I've been on this site (sept 2004) and apparently long before; however, the site admins seem as unresponsive to suggestions to improve the fairness of the Hot 20 (which seems to be of the biggest issue in the Poser gallery) as are a handful of artists are to actual constructive and helpful critiques. I loved Turtle's suggestion of a multi-tiered system to indicate whether or not an artist wants crits or jsut a lot of ass-kissing... and Turtle's work definately deserves to be there. Though some of the stuff that appears does not (in my opinion)... I will share one thing... I got an IM from an artist who has frequently been in the Hot 20 in response to some suggestions I made on their work and they said: "Thanks Cara for the comment however I really wished you would keep some of your comments to yourself this is the second one today you just are not pleased with anything I do, I don't know your problems but really don't appreciate some of the remarks I know your going through a tuff time right now and you have tons of decisions to make I've been to your home page and your personal journal please be happy thats all anyone of us want to be and please don't take this personal either its just some of my own frustrations as well coming out take care _________" I replied that if they just wanted praise that they should say so on their posts and their 2nd reply was: "No Cara I do not want just "praise" as you put it however if you have never touched a _______ program or any other program then why?? Like your writting I know nothing about writting so why would I say anything even close to suggesting to you how to write anything. Sorry if you are offended but I honestly do think you have many issues to sort out, and I only wish you the best it is not easy and you are having a very hard time right now. Take care have a great day. ________" And that was from someone who is a regular in the "Hot" 20... cara