The problems with the Hot 20 have been apparent for 4-5 YEARS (I'm pretty sure that the pink ponies were in 2000, and the HOT 20 issues of clone votes and vote-buying had been raised long before that)... and there are still enough influential people who desperately need the HOT 20 to stay to support their egos or their bottomline. Given the numerous problems, and the wars, the anger, the pain, the deceit, the hypocracy, the bribery, the threats and intimidation, the unfairness, and the extremely talented people who have left this site never to return because of this "feature", as well as the public outcry, you'd think that it could be replaced with something which would still allow warm fuzzies for the people who need all the comments, and with something that rewarded real talent, yet remove the battlefield from those infants who use the Hot 20 to wage war. Nope. I tried. I used my most persuasive arguments, as well as links to some of the heart-wrenching images and posts in the Poser Gallery. I failed. Unless there is an overwhelming movement by the membership, the Hot 20 will be here until the next Ice Age freezes the demons in their seats. Carolly