One more thing: ...this is another sign of Vue's apparent identity crisis : is it trying to be something more than a landscape creator ? That's always bothered me in a fundamental way. I remember a long time ago lobbying e-on to not refer to Vue as a "landscape generator", because it just sounds wrong. Makes it sound "cookie-cutter", or somehow like the creative process is bypassed or compromised. Vue doesn't "generate" anything on it's own other than pre-programmed presets which someone else already came up with, but, the thing is, any one of us can do it too, if we understand certain fundamentals as to what makes for reaslism in materials, lighting, etcetera. In other words, its only real limitation is your own knowledge; if you can't visualize, Vue ain't gonna do it for you, but if you can, Vue can render up there with the best of them. But as to whether Vue is trying to be something it's not, I would say, "No." Vue d'Esprit is a 3d model surfacing/rendering program, which has built-in funcionality for incredibly realistic outdoor scenes, but which has, unfortunately, and largely because of its marketing, been branded by the public as good for only landscapes.