Ah One of those: RAA Real Application Apologist He -did- miss a few points in there, didn't he? like the procedural terrains. Oops. Like the ability to use Vue in a networked rendering configuration, to enable animation in a reasonable amount of time. Aw, shucks. Being able to import content animated in Poser into Vue 5 with Mover 5. Oops, I used the 'P' word. Etc, ad nauseum... Yeah, E-on really needs to find a way to emphasize that Vue can be used to create more than landscapes, and can be part of a nice little rendering pipeline for those of us who can't afford the money and time to purchase and learn the big 3...