The Bryce Hot 20 is embarrasing for me to look at. I haven't posted any pictures in my gallery yet because I want to practice until I'm as good as the regulars. But even I can do much more then a water terrain, mountains with funky presets, and rainbow spheres. I understand that people express their art differently, and that subtleties that mean nothing to something can mean everything to the creator, but all I've seen is sh** for the sake of that. Now, I think lots of the Hot 20 is gorgeous. Many people can do amazing things with Bryce... but I think everyone knows what kind of pictures I'm talking about.