It looks like I've got to wait until monday, not long now: ) Did the same thing happen with one of your downloads niterug? Yeah the site always seems really slow, I've had quit a few downloads in the past lose connection, it is pretty annoying when you are only on a 56K modem. I did join and was hoping to get it today, but no luck, definetly in the future I will sign in, the order history page looks like it is just the trick for getting your downloads if this happens, thanks for the tip Kate