thanks guys. i was thinking along the same lines as ya'all. Kemal is still telling me he thinks it's an infringement...so i asked in copyright forum. thanks cindy for giving me that link! (and the other.) i read a couple of articles...trying to wade thru everything. i had some other questions so i posted them there. yes LP...i said almost same thing to Kemal... Ok brian...if i need legal counsel, i will call on you...get ready!!!! muuuuuuaaaaahhhh!