Thanks for your all your comments. This group is a lot of fun for me. I'm a retired stay at home Dad, and don't get out much. About using the 3D shockwave engine. This is very interesting for me to know what shockwave associates in peoples' minds. The original Myst and several of my childrens' games are produced with Director. There are actually a lot of stunning games and interactive media produced with this technology. As for 3D gaming for the web there is simply no other player in town. (aha! - a challenge) Here are some examples: http://necromanthus.com/Games/ShockWave/deusex.html protoype built for the Ford Motor co: http://inludo.com/demos/topgear/topgear01.htm The more people use this technology, the better, easier and cheaper it will get. Don't take my word for it. Download the game engine and put your models into it. Also download by my basic level for Carrara. The template files included are for 3dStudio Max, LightWave and Maya and need rescaling to get things to work. It's really a lot fun and a great way to share our work with eachother... ...jer