I stand corrected on the origins of Myst and certainly no offense taken. The point is Director has changed in the last couple of years to include 3D worlds, retained its versatility and power to produce near application power and to put it all on the web with Cross Platform capability. There are some other iniatives including Adobe Atmospheres and Viewpoint technology and would invite examples if anyone has any. The point on the fine line between informational and informercial submissions is well made... ...jer