Simon....i really like this last one the best...it has exactly that feel that i was hoping for...everything feels tied together! i really do like the "shadow box" ...somehow it gives it a more finished touch a think...just feels right to me. and i like that ciggy butt kept in. I have PSP7. I'm gonna print out all this and work on it Wed. when i have a day off. See if i can do it. Thanks so much everyone for your input, your suggestions, and you taking the time to work on this to see what could be done!!! you guys are awesome!!! Hopefully once i print all this out I won't have problems doing it with PSP7. hugz, sheila P.S. Brian...i DO have a wig...it's blonde!!!