As one of the PAs who put up a gift (maclean's toybox and gift package), I find this thread incomprehensible. I am NOT surprised at the lack of gratitude from some people. But I didn't sit down for 4 days and make 2 models and their textures, so people would be grateful. I did it because I thought it was a nice idea for christmas. Still, there's always someone who complains, no matter what you give them. (And, please note that my contribution doesn't require any product at all). What DOES surprise me is how DAZ got dragged into this and now gets blamed for all the evils of the modern world. DAZ had NOTHING to do with this initiative. It was suggested and developed in the PA forum, then we asked DAZ if they would host the files. OK. It's in their interest to host them, but that doesn't make them responsible for the content. Each individual PA decided what to make, not DAZ. You don't like our gifts? So, sue us! mac PS Thanks to all the other people who are appreciative of freebies.