Accepted that the giveaway on the Daz site is not a Daz promotion but spontaneous. That wasn't clear to me from the outset of the thread, and I haven't perused the Daz thread in any detail. Part of my post above was therefore not justified. The point remains, however, that SOME gifts are not gifts but promotions, particularly at this site, and I find it shallow that whenever anyone questions what is going on with anything labelled "free" they immediately get an avalanche of abuse. Does it matter when you can just not download things you don't want? Maybe not, but to me it leaves a bad taste when people exploit areas of this site for advertising purposes that are not intended to be places for product puffs.