sorry fdw i dont know that this has ever been attempted before...its a completely new experimental technique using many small objects grouped together... its still up in the air whether the results are worth the extra render time...file size isnt really a problem (this ones about 1 mb}render time is about 10-15min on my 200mhz/96ram machine, i expect newer machines with more ram will prob just breeze rite through it though...just a hope untested as of yet...render setting used here are default poser settings with antialias on and shadows off... no post work... still have a lot of work left to do before im finished i just post these to let those who are interested know whats happening... :O)

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