Thanks, actually I figuered it out about an hour or so after I posted the message. I was testing to see if using current render settings would make a difference instead of using the default. As I found out they do but unfortunatly the render time jumps by several hours. Short thanks to renderosity too because it has been very helpful in my rendering process. Nice to have a site that allows me to compair my abilities with that of others while also being able to learn new things from more advanced users.