"A lot of artists participate in the creation and enjoyment of games. There have been several games that use products purchased right here at Renderosity. We believe that gaming is a relevant topic to graphic artists that participate in their creation and/or enjoy playing these games. This forum gives them an area to explore this creative sector." A lot of artists create artwork that is either directly or indirectly inspired by the political and social climate of the time. Picasso's "Guernica" comes to mind, as well as plenty of works that have even been posted here on Renderosity. We (former denizens of the den) believe that political and social discussion is relevant to the artists who are inspired by such things/or enjoy participatin in discussions of this nature, and wish we still had a forum to explore that creative sector... LornaW: I think the point that's being made is that the gaming forum has about as much to do with art as the Den, or the old OT forum (or the Tavern, or the C&D forum) and uses up about as much time and resources, and yet one is allowed to remain, and the other(s) are not.... One can only wonder: if they DID shut the gaming forum down, and the gamer/artists here had the audacity to question why, or ask for it back, would they also get responses like this: I'm sure there are 1000s of gaming forums on the net. Why not find them? WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH (what's with that one anyway? is it supposed to be like, 'Wah, crybaby, crybaby! Oh, boohoo, I don't have anyplace to talk to my artist friends about stuff not directly related to art.... Why don't you go find somebody who cares?!')