Don't know who Mathulsa was, whether some great time artist or some nethermonk of the Tibetan mountains, but I've been told out and hereabout that this hot 20 isssue has been going on since the stone ages of this forum, right after wannabees figured out how to get noticed without much creative effort and just loads of derrier smooching. Sounds pretty icky. Feel bad for the folks running this place since it is difficult to fix other than getting rid of the hot 20 or making members wear pants while online here.