kaveman, mostly the first part of my comment was directed to you and I have a different viewpoint (from the MacWorld itself on the transition). It went well for the size of the transition, but not as well as many would harp on about (?). That over: 1. I didn't bring Macs into this discussion. 2. No, it was someone else negating my mentioning of switch costs. I was directing those comments towards them. 3. I am not a "registered' MS developer, but I am a Full MSDN subscriber. Yes, I've been at the computer thing since 1987 (C64, Amiga, Windows, Unix, MacOS) - and I arrived late. I do know a little bit... 4. The same panic ensued when 98 and XP were released (more so on the latter). I donot think that MS is going to risk their user base by forcing anyone to upgrade immediately. Do you? They're both great OS's (you'd better get used to it). I wish people would stop being prosyletizing advocates based upon subjective emotions instead of what tool is right for the job, correctly priced, and has the least impact overall in updating. Penguinisto: My Windows system did not cost $2500, it cost $1500 (dual Xeon, 4GB, 120|160|120|80GB drives, DVD-/+R/RW, 21" and 17" monitors, etc. and so on). Don't believe that everyone is so gullible to buy only from AlienWare...

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