forget the the off-roaders....they ain't movin' either! Kemal just went out to see if he could make it out of the parking lot. (his brother's car is stuck in MIDDLE of expressway 10 miles from here, but brother safe at home). anyway, guy with 4-wheel drive in our parking lot couldn't make it 3 feet out of parking lot. got stuck...took him and 4 people to PUSH it back to parking spot. pretty bad when the 4-wheel drives can't get out!!! we're stuck! Towing service told Kemal's brother he'd pick up his vehicle for $500. Kemal's brother said ok. Asked the guy to drive a few more miles to pick him up at his house...guy said no way...back roads aren't passable. sorry no pic..i'm still in pj's drinking coffee...lazy this morning. maybe later! LOL...