operaguy: I didn't see your original thread before posting here, but you are correct about other problems which may be resolved by this fix. In fact in my original thread on the subject I did mention that possibility. It is just that the only things I have actually tested and verified are the raytracing aspects. So I should have said above that this technique has not been VERIFIED for anything other than raytracing. It appears that you have discovered another possible use, and if your results are predictable and can be duplicated by others, it would be verified too. I have found that there are also MAJOR improvements in cloth behavior when the world is scaled up. I can finally make cloth that is not either stiff as heavy canvas or flimsy and fluttering like tissue paper. When the world is scaled up, you can get the cloth to drape and sway just like cotton or silk or just about anything. At least that is the way it appears, but I haven't done all the controlled testing necessary to verify it. randym77: Yes CL is well aware of this and I'm working with them on a solution. The problem is complex, however, because there are so many different aspects to Poser. It is made even more difficult by the fact that Poser contains 3rd party modules that have their own unique requirements to interface properly with the other modules. So, it is difficult to apply a fix across the board which does not turn out to introduce problems in unexpected areas. So CL IS working on it, and is doing their best to see that other problems are avoided, but that involves a lot of testing. I'm confident, however that they will resolve the issue in the best possible way - whatever that turns out to be.