true.. but they did'nt try and make the same mesh into everything. thats the drawback. we try and make M and V into every imaginable shape, bodytype, ethnic group. sorry. that just does not work. and no amount of arguing is going to change that fact. a properly made model for one ethnic group will always be superior to trying to morph the shit outta M or V, trying to get the same effect. they are very versitile models yes. for the ideal caucasian. but taking it beyond that.. they fall down. (see my comments on the Unimesh Fallacy for details)