I agree with that, but I think the issue here is whether or not Poser is "real 3D", not "real art". In my opinion, anything that allows you to change the position of a camera and be able to view an object from any direction IS a "real 3D" application. As to whether or not Poser is a "real 3D modeler" is another issue. In my opinion, it is not, because as someone mentioned above, you cannot create a figure from SCRATCH in Poser. ANY of these applications can create art.