You know..... I totaly amazes me that people have the audacity to say this is art and this is not. I don't like this interface, or that one. Well.....then don't use them!!! I do not look at how easy or hard a program is to use, I look at it for what it can do for me, as well as the price tag that is attached. Personaly I use Poser5 and Vue5. Why? Beacuse they do what I need and want. Does that make my work any less art, or 3D art? If you say yes, then you are a moron. Art is not a matter of grabbing a few preset models and slamming them into a scene. You have got to have composition. Anyone can jump into just about "any" 3D program and make something. Does that make it art..... Art is all subjective to the viewer. If I don't like something, I don't bitch about it, I just don't look at it. I am getting my degree in Graphic Design. My color theory prof is a locl artist. Personally I do not like any of his work, but does that take away from the fact that he is an artist? NO!! I use Photoshop. Why not Paintshop Pro, they both do similar things? I do not care for the design in PSP. So I use Photoshop. My point is.....if you don't like a program, then don't use it! I just wish those individuals who bark up the wrong tree about what is and is not art would just concentrate their efforts and energies into their own art. Or maybe they are not artists....???