Pauljs75: I was with you right up to "n-gon", lol. I'm still very much a modeling novice. I pretty much smooth as I go. I work for a while in Wings, save as a wavefront.obj, import that into Bryce and do a 4 rpp test render. I try to make an object in Wings that doesn't need to be smoothed further in Bryce after import. And yes, I'll probably make a controller if I finish the main unit. I don't think the ports will be that hard, I thought I'd just do some cuts, insets and negative extrusions. It may be harder than I think, but we'll see. I'm not going for total duplication, just near enough. The poly count in Bryce is only 8,368 so far, I don't think that's too bad. I saw your controller earlier, great job. By the time I got my ps1, though, it had the 2 analog thumb controllers and vibration. It got trashed, though, so I'll have to use my ps2 controller as a reference and make it grey. :^) Vile: For time wasters, Playstations can't touch Bryce or Wings. :^) And Sackrat got it right, it is a puppy. :^D

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