thanks nuke, for the vote of confidance gotta question though... whats this deep texture editor? i keep trying to adjust the camera size, angle and the room size but it keeps coming out the same, or else it starts to look like the room is inside a bubble. i do alot of outdoor scenes with bryce but now i'm trying new things modeling and so forth got alot to learn and the stupid manual dont help much when things start getting technical makes me think harder and then i get confused lol