I forgot to get back to this thread with my G5 time: G5 Dual 1.8Ghz 2.5Gig RAM SATA250 (poser and pz on that drive, OSX Jaguar latest patch on separate HD) Bucket at default of 32: 318 seconds Bucket kicked up to 300: 199 seconds Bucket kicked up to 512: 198 seconds My times are pretty consistent with penguinisto (above) obviously, when it comes time for me to get serious, I will test bucket settings between 32 and 300. Also, I tried pushing the bucket to 800, but Poser did not know what to do with that. It just 'ended' the render and gave me a black blank image. ::::: Opera :::::