stewar, Cripes, now I have to think thru this possibility. You are opening an entire window onto Renderman for Poser5. That is huge. Meanwhile, previously short that option, and with no procedural materials out to Vue, I have been seeing how far I can push Poser5 for animation. You do say this about your script: Limitations of this version: No shadow maps. No Material Nodes. No environment maps. Limited bump mapping. But most of those things can be made up for with Renderman options. But that's another learning curve, of course. Meanwhile I consider it highly fortunate that face_off has come up with his Skin Shader python script that pushes the Material Room node/procedurals. This would not go over to any Renderman compatible program. I went to school on your material room page. Also, your note and script on Depth Of Field is perfect timing...I have been trying to figure out how to latch onto that power in Poser. ::::: Opera :::::