Well Bobbie,you stated in another thread that you don't have QT installed. If you don't have QT installed renaming the plugin isn't going to do anything for you. I'm like you and prefer not to have QT at all (I find it a very intrusive program)......renaming the plugin is for people that can't live without QT. As for Poser5's code not being rewritten as CL promised....well that's pretty old news now. SWAMP