Bill Bayard has kindly offered to host the SMV Hair update and the Spiral stair, I've changed the Free Stuff links, they are once again working. Everything else is either at my Fortunecity site or at Zygote, as I mentioned. Incidently, and somewhat off the subject, my first job when I got out of High School was in a welding shop, eventually I designed a series of spiral stairs of verious sizes, and the jigs and fixtures to build them. This was about 30 years ago, but building this stair in Max brought back some memories. One thing that I had forgotten is that 3/4 turn stairs put the bottom stair facing under the platform, so I revised this to be a full turn, 16 treads, which is why the floor-floor height is so high (about 12' - most houses are about 8' 10" or so), this was done so SMV could do a better job in the photo shoots, as this way she would come off facing the camera. Some other thing I remember is that you can get a 5' dia staircase (mine were all-in-one, only the upper platform was loose) through a 3' doorway, by screwing it through! Anyway, if you can see the upper deck, what looks best is an open deck with the stair platform jutting out, ot a "notched" deck with the platform in the corner. In either case the other 3/4 of the stairwell must be open, for headroom, and you will need the railing section I furnished (or something else) for the upper deck edge, else SMV or the Posette fall off! Now, that is everthing you need to know about spiral stairs!